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Title: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: SALTSTONE on March 21, 2009, 04:25:51 PM
Ljudi , zene , deco i ostali glasajte za Stringa i mene ( PLUG AND PLAY ) za najbolji kako oni kazu " METAL BAND " godine, .....svaki glas ce nam dobro doci.....unapred zahvalni !!! :drinks2 :rock3 :rock3
    Plug'n'Play " Raise Your Voice "je nominovan za metal album godine!
Svaki vas glas je dobrodosao! :))

http://www.davorin.ba/muzika/2009.asp
Nagrada INDEXI - nominacije 2009. godina
Source: www.davorin.ba
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: wOo3cA on March 21, 2009, 04:40:03 PM
glasao,srecno  :wah
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: *SPARTANAC* on March 21, 2009, 04:54:23 PM
Glasao, i rasirio dalje! :rnr
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: ~LoneWolfs~Extreme on March 21, 2009, 05:07:51 PM
Glasao :yahoo :yahoo
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: Citadel of Pain on March 21, 2009, 06:38:17 PM
Glasao  :scenic

Can't you see x-fire in my eyes again..  ;D


Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: Citadel of Pain on March 21, 2009, 06:41:44 PM
Drugi smo!!!

Fali još 150 glasova...ajmo bando klikćite

ko ne glasa taj je šteker oooo ooo ooo
ko ne glasa taj je lower ooooo ooo ooo
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: muschmule on March 21, 2009, 07:32:39 PM
Jel moze vise puta da se glasa?
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: STEK on March 21, 2009, 07:39:03 PM
vote!!! :happy
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: Bezobrazna_Deca on March 21, 2009, 08:07:19 PM
Glasao
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: Paradox on March 21, 2009, 09:43:01 PM
Ne zelite da budete etiketirani kao mJetal a ipak zelite da pobedite  ;D ... salim se naravno

Nego, cim sam video da je Triger prvi znao sam sta je u pitanju>>> http://www.tolkien.rs/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=19383&start=45 (http://www.tolkien.rs/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=19383&start=45)

Trebali ste da kazete Sauronu da ugasi tolkien dok traje glasanje  ;D

Kao sto vidite i oni pozivaju ljude da glasaju, i to svaki dan, mozda cak i vise puta na dan, pa sto ne bi mi uzvratili istom merom   :aug

Nema njih vise nego nas, samo udri!!!  :rnr  :rnr  :rnr
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: $tring on March 21, 2009, 09:47:04 PM
Quote from: Traudl on March 21, 2009, 07:32:39 PM
Jel moze vise puta da se glasa?

Moze! :)
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: wOo3cA on March 21, 2009, 10:06:50 PM
ajmo onda udriiii  :ziveli
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: Lider on March 21, 2009, 10:21:33 PM
Ja sam glasao vec dva puta  :doc
:wink:
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: VIP.er on March 21, 2009, 10:48:09 PM
Quote from: Lider on March 21, 2009, 10:21:33 PM
Ja sam glasao vec dva puta  :doc
:wink:
Takodje  :)
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: SOLID on March 21, 2009, 10:52:33 PM
Glasaooooo
jbt dosta vam treba da biste bili prvi....
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: muschmule on March 21, 2009, 11:05:54 PM
Meni ne da da glasam vise puta...kaze vec ste glasali... :-\
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: zlenzlla on March 21, 2009, 11:17:15 PM
Glasao i to dva puta.  :happy   Za sve koji ne znaju kako da glasaju vise puta: Jednom sam glasao preko Firefox-a i nije mi dalo ponovo. Onda otvorim preko Internet explorera i glasam jos jednom.  Sretno. Do kad je glasanje?  :rnr :rnr :rnr :rnr :rnr :rnr
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: tnt74 on March 22, 2009, 12:06:50 AM
glasao  :hat
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: *SPARTANAC* on March 22, 2009, 12:15:37 AM
Quote from: Traudl on March 21, 2009, 11:05:54 PM
Meni ne da da glasam vise puta...kaze vec ste glasali... :-\
Mozes da promenis IE ili mozes da restartujes router. Ovaj vid glasanja moze sigurno da se izbaguje. e sad treba znati to napraviti :D
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: Lider on March 22, 2009, 12:21:00 AM
Ja sam glasao jutros i sad veceras, u medjuvremenu sam se diskonektovao. Oba puta preko Firefoxa. Znaci da moze.
Restart kompa i onda glasati, restar komp-glas, restart komp-glas, restart komp-glas, restart komp-glas, restar komp-e jbg otislo napajanje.  :icon_lol:
Sretno  :party2
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: Zver on March 22, 2009, 12:24:22 AM
Najjaci fazon je da u IE samo obrises cookie i glasas ponovo koliko god hoces puta.
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: SOLID on March 22, 2009, 12:42:03 AM
Mogli bi da uploadujete neke fotografije i video materijal  sa nastupa.... :D
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: muschmule on March 22, 2009, 12:46:28 AM
Ovo je ludilo kako rastu glasovi  :hat
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: *SPARTANAC* on March 22, 2009, 12:56:34 AM
Ja sam se malo zanimao i pronasao zanimljivo resenje... ne smem da otkrivma tajnu ali recimo da je zanimljivo...
hvala svima sto su galsali, i nek nastave da galsaju :)
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: tnt74 on March 22, 2009, 01:54:15 AM
Trenutna situacija je P and P 800 glasova- Triger 335
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: *SPARTANAC* on March 22, 2009, 01:57:19 AM
Quote from: tnt74 on March 22, 2009, 01:54:15 AM
Trenutna situacija je P and P 800 glasova- Triger 335
p'n'p on TOP! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: SOLID on March 22, 2009, 02:18:55 AM
(http://i44.tinypic.com/1znmjnp.jpg)

Mislim da je vec vasa :D
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: Paradox on March 22, 2009, 03:05:19 AM
Now I call THAT a team work... good job fellas  :yahoo
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: Paradox on March 22, 2009, 03:11:01 AM
Glasao sam i u drugim kategorijama cisto da vidim kako stoje stvari...

Nigde nema toliko KRIMINALNE prednosti kao u sekciji metal album  ;D

Mogli bi ipak malo da usporimo  :D

EDIT: Zapravo situacija je tolko KRIMINALNA da Plug & Play vode u SVIM zajedno kategorijama...

Van Gogh u kategoriji za najbolji koncert je oko 50 glasova iza  ;D
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: Labello on March 22, 2009, 03:19:06 AM
Glasao! srecno :yahoo
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: SALTSTONE on March 22, 2009, 04:30:29 AM
hVALA VAM LJUDI  :yahoo    bravooooooooooooo  :ziveli :wah :rnr :drinks2 :hat :happy :rock3 :party2 :icon_bad:
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: SALTSTONE on March 22, 2009, 04:45:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz16ak_unDA&feature=channel_page


Plug'n'Play spot za pesmu 'Was it better when it was worse', prvi singl sa albuma Raise your voice. MySpace link : www.myspace.com/plugandplayns
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: Podpredsednik on March 22, 2009, 05:37:26 AM
Glasao sam, za sad imate 821 glas a drugoplasirani 342. SRECNO!  :wah
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: Lider on March 22, 2009, 12:06:08 PM
:rofl jce u ovo doba ste imali oko 110 glasnova, a sad preko 800  :rofl :rofl :rofl
Neko nije spavao cijelu noc :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: SOLID on March 22, 2009, 12:51:02 PM
Ma lolllll :D
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: Zver on March 22, 2009, 03:25:07 PM
Quote from: Lider on March 22, 2009, 12:06:08 PM
:rofl jce u ovo doba ste imali oko 110 glasnova, a sad preko 800  :rofl :rofl :rofl
Neko nije spavao cijelu noc :icon_lol:

;D
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: kordoba on March 22, 2009, 05:55:59 PM
Oprostite na sluzbenom putu sam po Evropi pa ne videh ranije...

GLASAO !!!

Prvi ste nema sta! :hat
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: Lider on March 22, 2009, 06:07:33 PM
Quote from: kordoba on March 22, 2009, 05:55:59 PM
Oprostite na sluzbenom putu sam po Evropi pa ne videh ranije...

GLASAO !!!

Prvi ste nema sta! :hat

Ma nek se samo putuje :yahoo :yahoo :yahoo
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: *SPARTANAC* on March 22, 2009, 09:14:01 PM
Quote from: SOLID on March 22, 2009, 12:51:02 PM
Ma lolllll :D
Jeli solid, sta mislis ko je toliko bio lud?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: ToTo on March 22, 2009, 10:56:27 PM
Glasao!!!  :rock3 :rock3 :rock3
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: SOLID on March 23, 2009, 03:30:48 AM
Quote from: *SPARTANAC* on March 22, 2009, 09:14:01 PM
Quote from: SOLID on March 22, 2009, 12:51:02 PM
Ma lolllll :D
Jeli solid, sta mislis ko je toliko bio lud?  ;D ;D
Pa.....ovaj.....sta....ko...gde.... :computer
8)
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: SOLID on March 23, 2009, 10:12:35 AM
Ma moj favorit je zinedin zidan!  :o
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: mean on March 23, 2009, 10:59:49 AM
Mislim da je najludji zverko, bio sam kod muertea kada je ovaj odvaljivao glasove   :acute


1434  :drinks2
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: SOLID on March 23, 2009, 11:36:29 AM
Ko odvaljivao ? :hat
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: mean on March 23, 2009, 12:17:58 PM
Zver  :yahoo
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: DiDaN on March 23, 2009, 01:29:07 PM
glasao........samo napred.............prvi ste  :yahoo
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: SALTSTONE on March 23, 2009, 01:57:47 PM
 :yahoo   :yahoo   :yahoo   :yahoo   :yahoo   :yahoo   :yahoo   :yahoo  :ziveli  :ziveli  :ziveli  :ziveli  :ziveli  :drinks2  :drinks2  :drinks2  :rock3  :party2  :party2  :party2  :party2
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: Erwin König on March 23, 2009, 02:13:35 PM
Glasao. Nadam se da će vam ova pobeda pomoći u vašoj muzičkoj karijeri
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: $tring on March 23, 2009, 07:14:55 PM
Hvala drugari.......  :rock3
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: PsiHoman on March 23, 2009, 07:26:32 PM
Ja sam glasao 6 puta :)
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: muschmule on March 23, 2009, 07:54:56 PM
Ma sad vas niko vise ne stigne  :yahoo

a da glasamo za jos nekog  8|...bas su ostali u prasini  :yahoo
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: *SPARTANAC* on March 23, 2009, 11:23:03 PM
Quote from: PsiHoman on March 23, 2009, 07:26:32 PM
Ja sam glasao 6 puta :)
Ja i solid smo galsali oko 600-700 puta pa crknite od muke! :diablo :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
Ko ne veruje nek pogleda koliko Zinedin Zidan ima galsova! 8)
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: BaNaNaMaN on March 23, 2009, 11:25:25 PM
ja sam morao da glasam za zinedina zidana on je favorit!!
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: SOLID on March 23, 2009, 11:31:28 PM
(http://i41.tinypic.com/35nc22p.gif)
:rnr :rnr :rnr :rnr :rnr :rnr :rnr :rnr
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: *SPARTANAC* on March 23, 2009, 11:33:02 PM
Quote from: SOLID on March 23, 2009, 11:31:28 PM
(http://i41.tinypic.com/35nc22p.gif)
:rnr :rnr :rnr :rnr :rnr :rnr :rnr :rnr
OCU DA KUPIM 10 KOMADA AKO NIJE RASPRODATO :hat :hat :hat :hat :hat :hat :rnr :rnr :rnr :rnr :rnr :rnr
ZINEdiN ZIDAN RULZZZZZZZ
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: SOLID on March 23, 2009, 11:37:51 PM
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2czvig2.jpg)

Zinedin zinedinZinedin zinedinZinedin zinedinZinedin zinedinZinedin zinedinZinedin zinedin!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Svi smo uz tebe...nemoj da se predas!  :yahoo
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: *SPARTANAC* on March 23, 2009, 11:44:27 PM
ZINEDIN ZIDAN - Heroj a ne huligan
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: BaNaNaMaN on March 23, 2009, 11:55:19 PM
nisam spavao 3 noci da bi zinedin zidan pobedio :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: SOLID on March 23, 2009, 11:59:05 PM
4h=5550 glasova za zidana! :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: *SPARTANAC* on March 24, 2009, 12:03:03 AM
Quote from: SOLID on March 23, 2009, 11:59:05 PM
4h=5000 glasova za zidana! :icon_lol:
I to pomnozite sa 4 coveka i dobijete broj 20.000!
Zinedine go go go ;D
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: tnt74 on March 24, 2009, 12:20:46 AM
Quote from: *SPARTANAC* on March 24, 2009, 12:03:03 AM
Quote from: SOLID on March 23, 2009, 11:59:05 PM
4h=5000 glasova za zidana! :icon_lol:
I to pomnozite sa 4 coveka i dobijete broj 20.000!
Zinedine go go go ;D
Sparta citer  :yahoo
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: zlenzlla on March 24, 2009, 01:15:56 AM
Quote from: *SPARTANAC* on March 24, 2009, 12:03:03 AM
Quote from: SOLID on March 23, 2009, 11:59:05 PM
4h=5000 glasova za zidana! :icon_lol:
I to pomnozite sa 4 coveka i dobijete broj 20.000!
Zinedine go go go ;D


ahahahhahahha    Kakvi ste manijaci. hahahhahaha    :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: Paradox on March 24, 2009, 01:48:07 AM
Prola Zidan prolazi noc...
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: BaNaNaMaN on March 24, 2009, 02:09:36 AM
mi lika i ne znamo, samo smo videli da ima najmanje glasova, i rekosmo aj da ga proslavimo :rofl  :rofl
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: mean on March 24, 2009, 11:31:27 AM
Pa ljudi glasajte za TONA kad se vec zajebavate  :vava
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: muschmule on March 24, 2009, 02:04:16 PM
Quote from: BaNaNaMaN on March 24, 2009, 02:09:36 AM
mi lika i ne znamo, samo smo videli da ima najmanje glasova, i rekosmo aj da ga proslavimo :rofl  :rofl

Lik se sigurno sad ceska po glavi i ne moze da ukapira u cemu je stos  :hmm
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: zlenzlla on March 24, 2009, 02:10:37 PM
A zamisli situacije na dodjeli nagrada - i zahvaljujuci cetvorici vjernih obozavatelja...pobjedio je Zidan.  :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: SOLID on March 24, 2009, 02:14:02 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: BaNaNaMaN on March 24, 2009, 05:08:29 PM
ma daj mean meni je idol Zinedin Zidan  :rofl, a bitange ako treba neki glas javite :hat
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: Tony Narednik SRB on March 25, 2009, 03:18:29 AM
Dobili ste i moj glas.
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: SALTSTONE on March 26, 2009, 12:58:06 PM
    Hvala puno svim ljudima koji su se trudili da nam pomognu.....ali izgleda smo malo preterali pa su nam obrisali 10000 glasova ako ne i vise, ......ko ce ga sad znati koliko je stvarno bilo....trenutno stanje je da smo 3. sa 922 glasa.....jbg :vava
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: muschmule on March 26, 2009, 01:01:04 PM
Taktika momci....taktika  :vava
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: zlenzlla on March 26, 2009, 01:16:47 PM
Idemo ponovo. Neka svako da po dva glasa i eto vas na prvom mjestu opet. Do kada je glasanje? Samo bez pretjerivanja ovaj put
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: SALTSTONE on March 26, 2009, 01:31:21 PM
Quote from: zlenzlla on March 26, 2009, 01:16:47 PM
Idemo ponovo. Neka svako da po dva glasa i eto vas na prvom mjestu opet. Do kada je glasanje? Samo bez pretjerivanja ovaj put

Do kraja meseca.... :rnr
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: clumsy on March 26, 2009, 01:32:44 PM
Quote from: SALTSTONE on March 26, 2009, 12:58:06 PM
    Hvala puno svim ljudima koji su se trudili da nam pomognu.....ali izgleda smo malo preterali pa su nam obrisali 10000 glasova ako ne i vise, ......ko ce ga sad znati koliko je stvarno bilo....trenutno stanje je da smo 3. sa 922 glasa.....jbg :vava

pa kada je glupavo glasanje.... mislim restartujes ruter i mozes ponovo da glasas. trebali su neku foru da ubace sa nekom malom registracijom i onda ne bi mogli da brisu glasove.
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: PsiHoman on March 26, 2009, 02:32:38 PM
alo ljudi glasajte vidite da su pali...
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: *SPARTANAC* on March 26, 2009, 04:16:33 PM
Quote from: PsiHoman on March 26, 2009, 02:32:38 PM
alo ljudi glasajte vidite da su pali...
Zasto i ko je dao 10.000 glasova ne znam. ali ko god da je dao ispao je budala.
Nas par je dalo 1000 galsova (NE VISE OD TOGA) bas iz ovog razloga da vam ne bi izbrisali galsove.
Ali neko se pravio pametan.... 8|
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: Podpredsednik on March 26, 2009, 06:18:24 PM
Sto oborise glasove???  :icon_grrr:
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: *SPARTANAC* on March 26, 2009, 08:18:49 PM
Quote from: Podpredsednik on March 26, 2009, 06:18:24 PM
Sto oborise glasove???  :icon_grrr:
Ako me ne bude mrzelo (mene i moje vrene drugove) nabicu iz inata 100k galsova i da okacim na youtube da vidis sta se zove galsanje! ^^
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: SOLID on March 26, 2009, 08:20:55 PM
Quote from: *SPARTANAC* on March 26, 2009, 08:18:49 PM
Quote from: Podpredsednik on March 26, 2009, 06:18:24 PM
Sto oborise glasove???  :icon_grrr:
Ako me ne bude mrzelo (mene i moje vrene drugove) nabicu iz inata 100k galsova i da okacim na youtube da vidis sta se zove galsanje! ^^
:doc :this
:icon_lol:
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: *SPARTANAC* on March 26, 2009, 08:23:20 PM
Quote from: SOLID on March 26, 2009, 08:20:55 PM
Quote from: *SPARTANAC* on March 26, 2009, 08:18:49 PM
Quote from: Podpredsednik on March 26, 2009, 06:18:24 PM
Sto oborise glasove???  :icon_grrr:
Ako me ne bude mrzelo (mene i moje vrene drugove) nabicu iz inata 100k galsova i da okacim na youtube da vidis sta se zove galsanje! ^^
:doc :this
:icon_lol:
8) 8) :scenic :ziveli
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: ~LoneWolfs~Extreme on March 26, 2009, 08:41:42 PM
ajde ljudi poduzmite nesto sad ste 3.
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: zlenzlla on March 26, 2009, 08:50:56 PM
Ja dao jos dva glasa  :happy
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: Podpredsednik on March 26, 2009, 11:47:09 PM
Sad ste drugi, jos 3x sam glasao danas.
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: *SPARTANAC* on March 26, 2009, 11:58:41 PM
ja sam nekih 200 nadam se da nece opet da brisu...
Ali realno ne mogu oni da vidu ko je stvarno galsao, pa ono orijentaciono brisu, sto opet nije fer.
A i ne nadajte se toliko malo sam listao forum i naisao na ovaj deo: "...Glasovi publike i zirija su jednaki..." sto znaci da je sve vec namesteno. :icon_confused:
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: SOLID on March 27, 2009, 02:07:55 AM
i jA NEKIH TOLIKO......PA SAD  .....
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: zlenzlla on April 09, 2009, 02:32:11 PM
I sta je na kraju bilo?
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: SALTSTONE on April 09, 2009, 02:48:52 PM
Quote from: zlenzlla on April 09, 2009, 02:32:11 PM
I sta je na kraju bilo?

  Ma namestaljka, nama su sve vreme brisali glasove dok su drugim dopustali da to isto rade....ma ko ih  :icon_bad:
Title: Re: Glasajte za Plug and Play
Post by: zlenzlla on April 09, 2009, 04:59:19 PM
Kakvi kreteni.  :||
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